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Post by armand on Aug 11, 2006 23:17:36 GMT -5
aka: Fake Paradise, Noble's Paradise, My Kind of Paradise et al.
All right to start, my questions have no definite answers, speculation will be fine.
So, Jagara's Paradise, what was it? All right...Darcia explained that Paradise(the one opened by the wolves) was a land where wolves reigned supreme. Then, was the Noble's Paradise a land where nobles reign supreme?
However, when we get a glimpse of the fake Paradise, we are told that there is no future or past in there. It simply takes a blissful moment from an individual and time stops at that moment. Did I make any wrong assumptions in my interpretation?
Also, why did only Kiba, Cheza, Jagara, Darcia and Cher caught a glimpse of that Paradise? Why didn't the other wolves or the other humans experience it?
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Post by ookami de kokoro on Aug 12, 2006 12:52:52 GMT -5
you're right about the Nobles' Paradise being one in which the Nobles would reign supreme, and i'm trying to remember but i think Jagara said something about time being stopped at one moment for eternity there. "but you and i will stop time, and embrace this moment forever." something like that, right?
and i'm guessing the only reason Kiba, Cheza, Jagara, Darcia and Cher were the only ones that saw it because they (meaning the Nobles and Cher) were all in the same room, while Kiba and Cheza were key parts of the Moonlight Crucible. although Cher was knocked unconcious or something some time during that sequence in Paradise... that would mean all of the other unconcious people saw it too, wouldn't it?
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Post by armand on Aug 12, 2006 21:33:39 GMT -5
Yeah...Jagara did say something like that. I would have prefered that then simply going to the void.
Kiba and Cheza were key parts of the Moonlight Crucible? I don't follow you there....
What knocked Cher unconcious anyway? So in order to experience Jagara's Paradise....you had to be unconcious? Or was unconciousnees merely the result of experiencing Jagara's Paradise?
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Post by ookami de kokoro on Aug 12, 2006 23:30:03 GMT -5
Kiba and Cheza were key parts of the Moonlight Crucible, which Jagara used to open her Paradise. she needed Kiba because the Crucible required the blood of a wolf, and she needed Cheza because... well, just like Darcia, she needed the flower maiden to open Paradise as well.
i don't know what happened to Cher, it was another one of those times where there was a bright flash of light. not to say that to experience Jagara's Paradise you had to be unconcious, i just found it weird that Cher was the only one to see it and not the other unconcious people in the room.
maybe she got caught up with it because she was so close to Cheza? (physically, i mean, she was right next to her tank)
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Post by armand on Aug 12, 2006 23:50:22 GMT -5
I thought that the Moonlight Crucible was only capable of turning moonlight into energy. What Jagara needed in order to open her paradise was Cheza, Kiba's blood and the Moonlight Crucible. However, Kiba and Cheza were not part of the crucible itself.
Do you mean to say that Jagara's Paradise had a....lets say, a limited radius?
Another question, why did Jagara's Paradise fail to open completely?
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Post by Ero_Sennin on Aug 20, 2006 14:40:37 GMT -5
Well, perhaps the fake paradise wasn't meant to be. Maybe there can only be one paradise opened, and that is from the wolves. That would make sense.
And it's possible that Tsume, Hige, and the others in the room saw Paradise, but they just didn't comment on it.
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Post by armand on Aug 20, 2006 18:07:55 GMT -5
Yeah...it is a fact that only one paradise can be opened...the one opened by wolves...such a pity.
Pretty strange don't you think? Everyone who saw it commented on it, and the rest just listened as though they had not experience it. Why is that do you think? Are they simply playing dumb?
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Post by fowlsdarkangel on Oct 15, 2006 21:21:32 GMT -5
It's just a gay anime, what's the big deal?
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Post by armand on Oct 15, 2006 22:10:48 GMT -5
I'll simply save the trouble of answering to all of your spam posts by just answering this one.
And here you are, posting in a forum, which is mainly about this so called "gay anime", how pathetic of your part.
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Post by ookami de kokoro on Oct 17, 2006 16:23:53 GMT -5
It's just a gay anime, what's the big deal? [hi-pok-ruh-see] –noun, plural -sies. 1. a pretense of having a virtuous character, moral or religious beliefs or principles, etc., that one does not really possess. you're the one that signed up for this forum last may, sweetie. blame yourself for liking something so blatantly 'gay'. and man, are you lucky that DJ isn't still around or what. |
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Post by Ero_Sennin on Oct 18, 2006 17:00:34 GMT -5
I believe we are all lucky... oh and fowl, you shouldn't talk... it makes you sound stupid.
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Post by armand on Oct 18, 2006 21:02:18 GMT -5
Such a beautiful thread gone terribly wrong.....oh well, one question. What do you prefer? The Garden of Eternity, Jagara's Paradise or the Wolves' Paradise?
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Post by ookami de kokoro on Oct 19, 2006 1:26:56 GMT -5
lol which do you think? ;D
although i suppose the others have their merits...
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Post by armand on Oct 20, 2006 0:59:49 GMT -5
Have no idea.....
Garden of Eternity....peace and tranquility.....you forget all your troubles.....and memories as well.
Jagara's Paradise....eternal blissful moment....nothing to look back on.....nothing to look forward to...
Wolves' Paradise.....the world restarts.....life returns....after everything dies.....pretty nice.....
Well....there is no such thing as a perfect paradise I suppose.....but I'll take Jagara's.
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Post by Ero_Sennin on Oct 21, 2006 1:31:53 GMT -5
I'd go for the Wolves' Paradise, without a doubt.
Why would you go for Jagara's? Sides the obvious fact that you wanna f**k her. Darcia the Third > You
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