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Post by armand on May 5, 2005 15:57:20 GMT -5
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Post by TheFlyer on May 5, 2005 18:31:08 GMT -5
Meh. I'm a christian, but I think evolution is the last of our worries, except for how much it effects others, in their having trouble to belive. I know smart Christians who believe in evolution, with good arguments, and smart Christians who belive in... instant appearing I guess. Genesis is all kinda hazy and symbolic anywho, like revelations.
I personally think, if it happened, that way, it did, if it didn't, well, it didn't. Its not going to affect how I view God any differently.
I mean, say a person takes a lifeless blob of wet clay, and slowly, overtime, with much changing and molding and gradual perfection, creates a pot, and then fires it. Wouldn't that be the same if God had slowly molded humanity, and, at some point, instilled what we call the soul? That's my opinion anyways.
As far as getting evolution banned from school, I think it's good to question the theory, just as I question my own christianity, if it isn't true, hopefully it won't stand up to the test. I like the fact that people with religeous minds are trying to get their thoughts out their and be heard, since I think it's a good influence, but if this act will make people see christians as illogical and brash, i'd rather not ban it if it hampers peoples conception of christianity in general. Makes it alot harder to discuss God with people if they think you're insane.
Just my two cents.
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Post by devinfire on May 5, 2005 19:03:24 GMT -5
this is why i tend to stray from any kind of religion. I do believe in god, I believe that god mapped out this universe, but christians trying to ban the theory of evolution is idiotic. in my opinion, they are angry that evolution gives evidence of how life began, while their religion offers nothing but something to have faith in, which is great, but this is rather dull, and anyway this is kinda of rebundant, since we all should know that evolution is just a theory, why are they getting so worked up?
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Post by TheFlyer on May 5, 2005 19:10:44 GMT -5
this is why i tend to stray from any kind of religion. I do believe in god, I believe that god mapped out this universe, but christians trying to ban the theory of evolution is idiotic. in my opinion, they are angry that evolution gives evidence of how life began, while their religion offers nothing but something to have faith in, which is great, but this is rather dull, and anyway this is kinda of rebundant, since we all should know that evolution is just a theory, why are they getting so worked up? I've been taught that faith and evidence go hand in hand though. I do know some Christians that believe without reason, and that doesn't make them any less Christian, but I tend to seek evidence first, and If I can't find answers, to belive it's simply because I can't find answers. Most of the time, if I'm patient enough, which isn't always the case, the answers will come. And good point about the theory, I agree with you there for sure. I wish it was taught more as theory though, because In my school, they tell you it's fact. Or maybe that's the way it comes across, anywho. |
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Post by Shamdeo on May 5, 2005 19:14:14 GMT -5
As a Roman Catholic, I was brought up taught that God created humanity and the world around us. Since the catechism classes have ended, I've accepted evolution more than creationism. To me, evolution makes sense. Over a period of time, organisms adapt to environmental changes. When I look at creationism, I see a lot of unanswered questions and locked doors. Perhaps it was some sort of synergy between God and nature that created the world as we know it. Then again, evolution has it's own inconsistencies. Perhaps God created the Earth and simply let it run it's course as far as evolution goes. Honestly, there are so many questions that I doubt I'll ever have a resolute belief in either of the two.
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Post by devinfire on May 5, 2005 19:19:07 GMT -5
I've been taught that faith and evidence go hand in hand though. I do know some Christians that believe without reason, and that doesn't make them any less Christian, but I tend to seek evidence first, and If I can't find answers, to belive it's simply because I can't find answers. Most of the time, if I'm patient enough, which isn't always the case, the answers will come. And good point about the theory, I agree with you there for sure. I wish it was taught more as theory though, because In my school, they tell you it's fact. Or maybe that's the way it comes across, anywho. yes, that's excatly the way I see it. I think god did create this universe, and earth. Im not sure if this higher being is actually "god", but I do believe that our world was planned out by something higher than ourselves. I cannot except the big bang theory, of how something comes from nothing. in my opinion, it's the worst theory ever, though I've heard of explanations of what the big bang may have really been, and they have made sense. anyway, yeah I guess I can agree that evolution sometimes may come across as fact, but that's because there's so much evidence going for it. |
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Post by TheFlyer on May 5, 2005 19:21:23 GMT -5
But the big bang and evolution don't contradict. I think they support.
Do you think the universe has always existed then. I'm not sure, but I heard an argument against this that was convincing. Figures I'd forget the argument. Science never sticks in me for very long.
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Post by devinfire on May 5, 2005 19:26:49 GMT -5
I could accept a theory that stated "something" jump started this universe, or created it, thus the big bang now has a backbone, but I cannot understand how someone really thinks that the universe was born from no matter at all unless something else acted on it.
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Post by TheFlyer on May 5, 2005 19:28:21 GMT -5
Exactly. I think that force. Personally, was God.
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Post by nuwaver89 on May 5, 2005 20:08:46 GMT -5
I believe in the theory of evolution.Of course there is no way of knowing for sure.It could be possible that we're descendants of aliens that came to Earth a long time ago.That would be neat.
It's understandable that people question it,that's fine,but banning it?Come on.
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Post by GoldenFire on May 6, 2005 3:11:43 GMT -5
If everyone starts banning things because they go against their religion/point of view – then in the end we will have nothing because there is not one thing in the whole wide world that everyone agrees with.
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Post by shinobiwolf on Dec 20, 2005 16:17:49 GMT -5
OMG
what do those "intelligent" design people think...that those cave-man bones were planted by scientists?!
D.N.A. must be a lie too
'cause we only share so many chromosomes with other animals!
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Post by OnlyFuture on Dec 20, 2005 23:09:28 GMT -5
tho this is an old topic and i'm prolly just kickin a dead dog i'll answer shinobi (b/c i never posted my veiw when this was out)
this being said i'm not sure which i believe in and truefully they both are right...b/c in science its not wrong until proven impossible so there may be a higher person or it could of been a big bang or w/e the fact is you can't disprove any of it and if ur really into this you should take up some astronomy classes b/c a lot of it has to do with this
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Post by shinobiwolf on Dec 21, 2005 14:12:23 GMT -5
i belive in a higher-power OK
and trust me i know my astronomy very-fine-thank-you
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Post by OnlyFuture on Dec 21, 2005 18:49:58 GMT -5
umm no i was not sayin you didn't kno what it was or anything about it but what i meant to say was that this was stated the darwin's theory has now become a religion so you can't disprove it just as you can't disprove any other religion. so therefore suck it up and take it his theory is his theory it now can't be talked about in school just as religion so the end
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