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Post by Scarred Wolf on Jul 28, 2005 16:26:19 GMT -5
ok I thin kwe get the point of there can be no light without dark thats just kinda ovious (no offince to anyone) but what if kiba isent the only key like what if there was another wolf or somthing that they needed to enter because when kiba finally gets to paradise do all of the wolves of the world go there to or what so I think that in order for paradise to work there needs to be kiba and I girl wolfie so they can make more wolfies and start a happy family Im sorry... WTF?! I didnt get a word of that.
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Post by Ero_Sennin on Jul 28, 2005 17:14:44 GMT -5
It was just some stupid retarded post... just ignore it
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Post by devinfire on Jul 29, 2005 0:27:00 GMT -5
What is paradise? It's a place where wolve's rule. Now tell me, in the last moments of the ending, did it look as if the wolves were ruling? If you meant balance the evil and good in paradise, it's contradictory to fact that paradise is meant to be ruled by wolves. Darcia's eye obviously intervenes with that little fact and the final scenes are proof enough.
Darcia is a archetype character... nothing knew there. The only connection I see with Darcia and Cheza is his desire for paradise and her ability to open it. Kiba is obviously emphasized as his opposite I.E Light vs. Dark, well-intentioned vs ill-intentioned, etc.
You obviously misread my sentence. All you did was restate my former statement. Yes, paradise rejected Darcia, it engulfed his body in etheral flames leaving behind a small reminder of his former self, the golden eye.
My only advice to you is that this is not a chat room. Take more time and care in your posts if you intend on having anyone take you seriously, no matter how insane ur posts are.
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Post by Scarred Wolf on Jul 29, 2005 2:49:33 GMT -5
Woah... devinfire being badass... i like it. ;D
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Post by Ero_Sennin on Jul 29, 2005 13:27:12 GMT -5
Yes he has taken after me... mwhahahhaha *flames erupt*
The earth is to be reborn in cycles... perhaps never ending cycles... obviously I think I've said that before.. blah. I feel bad for the humans.. you know. I mean Hubb knew that they'd have to die before the wolves reached paradise. Remember when they were either driving or walking together and he said something like "There is no where to go. There is nothing left" somethin like that.. everyone was dead except for them, Quent, and the wolves + Cheza..
You know how much that would suck? Knowing that you were going to die soon, but you don't know exactely when, or how. Man... I could just.. feel that intensity or whatever... thats why I connected with the humans so much.. (And that is part of the ending.. it's not like I'm off topic here or anything)
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Post by armand on Jul 29, 2005 20:44:43 GMT -5
What is paradise? It's a place where wolve's rule. Now tell me, in the last moments of the ending, did it look as if the wolves were ruling? If you meant balance the evil and good in paradise, it's contradictory to fact that paradise is meant to be ruled by wolves. Darcia's eye obviously intervenes with that little fact and the final scenes are proof enough. Well, you see, the problem is, that we are not sure what paradise is. Sure, Darcia says it is a place where wolves reign supreme but what the hell does he know, he hasn't been there. Therefore, it is not a fact that paradise is meant to be ruled by wolves. Also, i did not mean that it was a balance of good and evil. Just complete opposite characteristics balancing each other out, death and life, joy and misery, happiness and sadness etc. So, in my opinion, there is no such place as paradise(where wolves reign supreme etc). Just the world being reborn endlessly.
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Post by OnlyFuture on Jul 29, 2005 23:39:33 GMT -5
Actually, the ending to Wolf's Rain reminds me a bit of the end of the Dark Tower books by Steven King, in that Kiba is caught in a loop, forced to repeat his quest over and over again until he learns enough from the past to break free. Perhaps Paradise is trying to teach Kiba some kind of lesson before it can let him find the future he desires? Overall, I agree that a lot of it is left up to the interpreter. not that i disagree with you b/c i don't but the way i see it is that no matter how many times they restart the world there has to be something to taint it b/c in a world good evil choas not choas they need to balance out the reason i say that after seeing wolf's rain the paradise they talk about i don't view as paradise i just view it as a way for the world when its about to fall apart to start over again and lookin back on the show more and more things pull me towards this...(when darcia was talkin to kiba after one of there fights? or i think) darcia asks kiba why are you searching for paradise and kiba responds...not for hope but for a future and thats what this new world or paradise gives him and his friends a future and a new way to start over (though when we see them things r built and there of the same age if the world did start over what point is it at when they show us our final pictures of the wolves?)
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Post by DJ Toboe on Oct 5, 2005 10:00:01 GMT -5
Actually I don't really agree. All that had to happen was for Cheza to bloom in that area, and she did. The only point of Kiba living to that point was to keep Darcia from killing her. Cheza told them all (the main 4) that they were all meant for paradise. The fact that you posted that only Kiba was meant to go isn't entirely true. And at the end, the main 4 did arrive at this "paradise" although not perfect in nature, but he's still determined to make it one. One things for sure, there's a lot more life in the new world. And it is shown that Kiba, Tsume, Hige, and Toboe were all at this new place they were all meant to be there. Everything on the previous world died. That was required to bring upon the new one. I was lead to believe in a spoiler that paradise is death, but it's not. It's rebirth.
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Post by Chaosanddarkness on Oct 6, 2005 22:20:38 GMT -5
Yeah sure...whatever. Rebirth yes, but for you? Certaintly not for the humans, they enjoy deluding themselves, and thinking their god's gift to whatthef**kever, and trying to say "Kiba is mine, Cheza sucks!" Worthless, utterly worthless. Some things belong ONLY to themselves and no one else. The wolves, they are not for you, you would just coorupt them and get in their way, as you have before. Maybe that underground con did exist, and i was hiding it from you, because that's what the REAL wolves do, they decide who is worthy and who is not, and that's all there is to it. You people havea deep love for beautiful things, yet do not understand what they need to thrive. Toboe is a girl, Kiba is a girl, Hige, all of them, the only "male" ironically enough, is Cheza. Look at the manga drawings, Kiba has hints of breasts, curves, and is lying by a tree with his hand over his stomach thanks to that lovely monthly cycle we inherited from everyone's bullshit and sin. Deal with it, if you can't, then take me on bitches!
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Post by Crickie on Oct 7, 2005 9:21:00 GMT -5
Yeah sure...whatever. Rebirth yes, but for you? Certaintly not for the humans, they enjoy deluding themselves, and thinking their god's gift to whatthef**kever, and trying to say "Kiba is mine, Cheza sucks!" Worthless, utterly worthless. Some things belong ONLY to themselves and no one else. The wolves, they are not for you, you would just coorupt them and get in their way, as you have before. Maybe that underground con did exist, and i was hiding it from you, because that's what the REAL wolves do, they decide who is worthy and who is not, and that's all there is to it. You people havea deep love for beautiful things, yet do not understand what they need to thrive. Toboe is a girl, Kiba is a girl, Hige, all of them, the only "male" ironically enough, is Cheza. Look at the manga drawings, Kiba has hints of breasts, curves, and is lying by a tree with his hand over his stomach thanks to that lovely monthly cycle we inherited from everyone's bullshit and sin. Deal with it, if you can't, then take me on bitches! Wow....um. Whoo. I can't take you on. You're much too badass for me to take on alone. The lesson for today, kids: Freebasing = bad. *can just see them wearing a tinfoil hat and waving a stake in the air while saying this*
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Post by Chaosanddarkness on Oct 7, 2005 9:34:22 GMT -5
Freebasing bad? Nahh...it's fun. I'm just playing here. *wags tail* I never said you weren't wolves at one point, I just said, 'well you suck now!' Because you throw away your heritage for these desgusting cities with their pollution and food that will kill you". That's all. ^^ I like fighting spirit, I'm just trying to remind everyone what they really are here. Welcome back! as Ed once said.
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Post by DJ Toboe on Oct 7, 2005 11:23:30 GMT -5
TOBOE IS NOT A GIRL! HE'S MINE! HE'S A BOY!!
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Post by Ero_Sennin on Oct 7, 2005 14:20:33 GMT -5
No offensive, but the 2 posters before me are pretty f**ked up
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Post by Chaosanddarkness on Oct 7, 2005 18:22:16 GMT -5
DJ, Toboe is going to kick the shit out of you, it's right at the top of her priority list. as is burning that ugly ass costume you made you sick freak. You wanted to f**k a little innocent boy... You made her cry in fear damn it...with your ugliness.
Or you could just read this part.
OMGGGGGGGSTFFFFUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!! WAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Oh and for the record, you only knew I was a girl because I signed that post with the name 'Lindsey' which is also a boy's name you dork!
Gender is so fun to f**k with. Notice none of the wolves were drawn with genitalia? DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
DJ: I have a thingy so I'm a guy!
Women everywhere: Ewwww Keep that in your pants.
Men everywhere: Where'd it go?
Me: Knowing him, he probably ate it.
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Post by Ero_Sennin on Oct 8, 2005 17:14:39 GMT -5
Wow this person is f**ked up. One, they are all males, you can tell in their voice and in the way that they were drawn.
The reason they weren't drawn with genitalia because THAT'S JUST WRONG!
btw your avatar needs to go get shot and put outta it's misery
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