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Post by devinfire on Apr 16, 2005 22:40:36 GMT -5
Tonights Episode - Equinox
Just wow. This nights episode was stunning. One of the best and most shocking to say the least. Alot was revealed, and then with the big twist at the end. I was like "wtf!?", I couldn't figure out how Motoko could have pulled off being the laughing man so well untill I remembered that he'd given her his memories last episode, then I was like "oh... ". Kickass, period.
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Post by Scarred Wolf on Apr 17, 2005 1:41:30 GMT -5
OOOO!!!
omg thanks. i thought that was just a huge inconsistency. He did give her his memories to help her or whatever. At the end i was like "uh... laughing man, u should probably prepare to fight batou..."
Yeah, i would say a lot was revealed. I just have one question, i remember him sometime saying "perhaps i should take back the title of laughing man" or "become the original laughing man" again. i probbaly missed something, was there no laughing man before? i thought the hooded guy was... anyway yeah devinfire/armand, explain! ( ;D)
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Post by devinfire on Apr 17, 2005 2:06:22 GMT -5
It wasn't Noi (the hooded guy) who asked for the ransom. Laughing Man was a made up criminal, and to get even more information from the old man Major Motoko in disguise as Noi said he should become the original laughing man, to further exploit the frauds of the world. Motoko was only trying to gain more evidence for their case.
As for the original laughing man, he never existed. He was made up by those men that was mentioned in the conversation. In a sense, the hooded guy was the laughing man but not willingly. The major crime he did was taking that gun and threatening to kill that man 6 years ago.
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Post by Scarred Wolf on Apr 17, 2005 12:36:23 GMT -5
It wasn't Noi (the hooded guy) who asked for the ransom. Laughing Man was a made up criminal, and to get even more information from the old man Major Motoko in disguise as Noi said he should become the original laughing man, to further exploit the frauds of the world. Motoko was only trying to gain more evidence for their case. As for the original laughing man, he never existed. He was made up by those men that was mentioned in the conversation. In a sense, the hooded guy was the laughing man but not willingly. The major crime he did was taking that gun and threatening to kill that man 6 years ago. Okay thanks. Thats what i thought too, that there wasnt any Laughing Man. But why did he put on that scene? He seemed all calm and then kinda burst out like that.
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Post by devinfire on Apr 17, 2005 13:14:12 GMT -5
Because the man he was debating with, who had promised to announce that his companies micromachines didn't have any effect on cyberbrainsclyyosis (sp?) told him he had no intention of keeping his promise after they were out in the streets in front of the camera. He didn't know that Noi had weapon with him and Noi exploded in anger when the other man said that. Seems he was more arrogant and impulsive 6 years ago.
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Post by Scarred Wolf on Apr 17, 2005 13:17:38 GMT -5
Okay. This makes alot of sense now. I was also thinking he cussed a lot, but that was the major. Anyway, i think its cyberbrain scolorosis or something. K next question, (hahaha) how did the major change her eye color, hair color, amongst some other things?
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Post by devinfire on Apr 17, 2005 13:20:05 GMT -5
Most likely she hacked the man she was talking with. Although before the Noi exchanged his memories with her, she probaly couldn't do something like that but I think he also gave her his abilities. She was able to hack those soilders eyes and everything.
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Post by Scarred Wolf on Apr 17, 2005 13:21:33 GMT -5
Oh yeah!! That was her the whole time, not Noi. Okay that all makes sense. He mustve transferred his abilities or something to her, so she hacked all the cameras and eyes and everything.
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Post by devinfire on Apr 17, 2005 13:24:08 GMT -5
I wish AS showed episode previews. I can't wait to see what Section 9's next move is, even though I have ta wait.
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Post by Scarred Wolf on Apr 17, 2005 13:29:26 GMT -5
I dont think there were episode previews on the DVD, either. But then i skipped the little tachikoma shorts between the eps, greedy for more action.
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Post by devinfire on Apr 17, 2005 13:30:57 GMT -5
That sucks. But episode previews to me are not neccesary for a dvd, but when the show is on tv I need episode previews!
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Post by armand on Apr 18, 2005 17:17:24 GMT -5
Oh yeah!! That was her the whole time, not Noi. Okay that all makes sense. He mustve transferred his abilities or something to her, so she hacked all the cameras and eyes and everything. It really isn't that Noi transferred his hacking abilities to the Major. The Major is already a great hacker. I must say that this episode was indeed a great shocker. It was so unexpected that it took me a while to understand it. About the going back to the original Laughing Man thing. Noi is this great hacker who has idealistic goals of exposing all the corruption and lies. The ones behind all of this try to portray him as a criminal in order to lower his credibility. Also, they use this incident to blackmail other companies in order for them to get money. So, Noi is tired of all of this and goes into seclusion. Well, now we have a main suspect. I forget his name, but he is probably the mastermind.
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Post by devinfire on Apr 18, 2005 18:04:49 GMT -5
I agree. I have the hardest time remembering some names in GITS. I got Section 9 down, but some of these characters, whew. But yes, saturdays episode tied everything together, why Noi was labeled the laughing man against his wishes, why he became a deaf mute, but there's still the his purpose. Although he wants to exploit the truth about the micro machines, what has drivin him this far to do it? Im sure it's not to just exploit the frauds, he's got a personal agenda for sure. About Noi and the Major's hacking abilities, the Major is a great hacker but can she hack eyes before the memory transfer? Maybe she could, but I think the major picked something up from Noi that was more than memories. I was kinda dissapointed though, I think I enjoyed watching Noi (the major), but then the Major revealed herself. But you know, the major and Noi are kinda one now if she has his memories. It should be known that the original laughing man was fake, he doesn't exist. the one behind this simply used Noi's outburst to his advantage, then Noi went into seclusion. I think the major said the going back to the original laughing man comment as a means of getting more info from him.
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Post by Scarred Wolf on Apr 18, 2005 18:12:11 GMT -5
Okay cool that makes sense now.
If only Noi hadnt had that outburst, they couldn't have really labeled him as a criminal...
As for his agenda, i think he might have a bit more personal agenda, but he does seem to be really self-sacrificing and noble in his cause.
I dont know if the Major can hack ppls eyes before the memory transfer, but shes hacked ppl's eyes before more than once....
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Post by devinfire on Apr 18, 2005 19:03:56 GMT -5
I know. Im not sure whether she ever did anything like that before. She's a great hacker, but honestly, if she was able to hack peoples eyes before the memory transfer why would she need stealth camo? The eye thing was something I thought was notorious for Noi(laughing man).
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