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Post by chezamaiden on May 1, 2005 23:07:40 GMT -5
What are you talking about? Every time I read one of your posts I get confused because I don’t know what you’re referring to. I wouldn't worry about it...I think that's what this person is striving for. I've seen several weird posts by them that don't even have anything to do with what's being talked about. On subject though...I believe Kiba was the only wolf left in his form when the new world began. Sure you see them doing things throughout the show that normally they couldn't do, but sometimes I think they did that maybe just to see if anyone noticed. The others had to be without a doubt, human, but I've seen a lot of open ideas here that to cover them all it would take a post a mile long. I like how people think...its awesome that so many people have the same ideas as me.
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Mugetsu
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Post by Mugetsu on May 2, 2005 15:20:24 GMT -5
Crispin writes things? 'Bout mythology and stuff? I'd like to read them, if they're online. Have a link by chance? :3 he has the email group crispin_freeman_myth_cafe on yahoo groups, if you wander over to there and search for posts about Wolf's Rain posted by Crispin Freeman you'll find it there. he's also done workshops about how anime relates to mythology at a few cons (none near enough for me to go to ).
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Post by Scarred Wolf on Jun 7, 2005 14:13:40 GMT -5
Why dont u believe in paradise in WR? Because they didnt reach it? Also, you can modify your original post with the "modify" button instead of posting twice.
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Post by ghostlyw0lf on Jun 26, 2005 21:10:39 GMT -5
Also, you can modify your original post with the "modify" button instead of posting twice. I know
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Post by Crickie on Jun 26, 2005 21:47:45 GMT -5
Why are you spamming and dragging back up old topics?
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Post by Ero_Sennin on Jun 26, 2005 22:31:47 GMT -5
Earth is Paradise... did you not catch that? They said it right in the anime. I'd have to watch some of it again to remember the exact wording but Earth is Paradise
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Post by Scarred Wolf on Jun 26, 2005 23:27:16 GMT -5
Also, you can modify your original post with the "modify" button instead of posting twice. I know Then prove it. If you know, no offence, but that's pretty bad, breaking the rules on purpose.
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Post by Ero_Sennin on Jun 27, 2005 0:50:15 GMT -5
*In a warning tone* Scarred... what did I tell you? Don't be an ass and stop trying to throw the rule book at everyone
There... good boy *pats you on your head*
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Post by ghostlyw0lf on Jun 30, 2005 11:55:43 GMT -5
When I posted that I didn't know but now I do know. Ok, ok.
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Post by devinfire on Jul 6, 2005 9:17:17 GMT -5
Earth is Paradise... did you not catch that? They said it right in the anime. I'd have to watch some of it again to remember the exact wording but Earth is Paradise Hmmm... I didn't catch that. Are you referring to Cheza saying " When the world is reborn... when paradise is opened"? Yeah... your right, it can be derived as the world is paradise, and that like flowers, even paradise can wither... hey, wait a sec... so, maybe when paradise is opened, the world is reborn, withers, happens again... hmmm... nah, couldn't be.
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Post by inuyasha04 on Jul 6, 2005 20:42:54 GMT -5
I think everyone has a pretty good idea about why and how WR ended. I completely agree with many of you saying that the scene shown at the end is the post-paradise, when humans overpopulated and evil began to spread. I think that when we see the paradise at the end of the last episode, that is true paradise, and Kiba alone had reached it. But then you see that Darcia's "evil eye" so to say, tainted the moon flower and thus began a new age of evil and corruption. This ends up destroying that paradise as it had in the past and creating a world much like the one all the wolves were trying to escape. I also agree that all the other wolves at the end of the episode has forgotten that they were wolves. They never made it to Paradise, instead they died before getting there. Wolves would give birth to humans and since Kiba was the only one left, I think that all of the other wolves were reborn from Kiba. And since Kiba is the chosen one, I think that he will always be reincarnated to give birth to the new world once again. You see all of them leading normal lives such as: Tsume-obeying the law for once, Toboe- in completely different clothes and befriended a kitten, and Hige- also wearing different clothes and eating from a grocery bag, not stealing his food. This might be kind of far-fetched, but I think just the fact that they had forgotten- like Darcia said- had happened. I also agree that the lone lunar flower in the city is a sign that Cheza would be born again, and she will be waiting to meet Kiba once again, such as she said in the beginning of the series that they had finally met after so long, and at the end when she told Kiba to find her again and she would be waiting. With the good, comes the evil, and I think that Paradise will never last and will always be corrupted but then reborn. Kiba is the balance between the two and that is why he is needed and reincarnated. At the end, I think he is running toward Paradise as he did in the very,very beginning of the series.
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Post by Scarred Wolf on Jul 6, 2005 21:08:19 GMT -5
I think everyone has a pretty good idea about why and how WR ended. I completely agree with many of you saying that the scene shown at the end is the post-paradise, when humans overpopulated and evil began to spread. I think that when we see the paradise at the end of the last episode, that is true paradise, and Kiba alone had reached it. But then you see that Darcia's "evil eye" so to say, tainted the moon flower and thus began a new age of evil and corruption. This ends up destroying that paradise as it had in the past and creating a world much like the one all the wolves were trying to escape. I also agree that all the other wolves at the end of the episode has forgotten that they were wolves. They never made it to Paradise, instead they died before getting there. Wolves would give birth to humans and since Kiba was the only one left, I think that all of the other wolves were reborn from Kiba. And since Kiba is the chosen one, I think that he will always be reincarnated to give birth to the new world once again. You see all of them leading normal lives such as: Tsume-obeying the law for once, Toboe- in completely different clothes and befriended a kitten, and Hige- also wearing different clothes and eating from a grocery bag, not stealing his food. This might be kind of far-fetched, but I think just the fact that they had forgotten- like Darcia said- had happened. I also agree that the lone lunar flower in the city is a sign that Cheza would be born again, and she will be waiting to meet Kiba once again, such as she said in the beginning of the series that they had finally met after so long, and at the end when she told Kiba to find her again and she would be waiting. With the good, comes the evil, and I think that Paradise will never last and will always be corrupted but then reborn. Kiba is the balance between the two and that is why he is needed and reincarnated. At the end, I think he is running toward Paradise as he did in the very,very beginning of the series. This is EXACTLY what i think, and i think you are very insightful. Except, i never made any of the "tsume obeying the law", and "hige not stealing food" connections. Nice job on that.
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Post by Ero_Sennin on Jul 6, 2005 23:10:02 GMT -5
Do we know for a fact that Hige did not steal that food? No we do not.
And I think it was at the beginning of episode 27 or 28 on the DVD
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Post by devinfire on Jul 7, 2005 4:22:28 GMT -5
Yes I agree, I think the creators did try to make it obvious that Hige, Toboe, and Tsume had been "reborn" as humans; those who have forgotten their true form. It's been pointed out alot before, such as Toboe's new friendliness toward kitties, Tsume riding a bike... which a wolf simply cannot do. I kinda saw as the world being paradise all along, like Sean mentioned, and like flowers and life, paradise withers, whether it be Darcia's eye or the wolves who had forgotten their own existence, it was inevitable. Paradise was simply a word created for the age when the world was bliss. Time passses, things whither, wolves, who remember the truth, search for paradise while humans, who have forgotten, try to shape a life in the desolate world they live in.
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Post by inuyasha04 on Jul 7, 2005 8:38:30 GMT -5
Thanks Scarred Wolf. We all think alike in some way...as for Sean, why would the food be ina groc bag if he stole it? Every other time he stole food he just took it on its own without anything else and ate it then and there. But just the fact that he is wearing different clothes is reason enough to THINK that he had forgotten. Besides, its just a hunch. Thanks for the back up Scarred Wolf and Devinfire.
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