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Post by SHE on Jul 18, 2005 3:05:28 GMT -5
It seems not many people on here talk about Wolf's Rain much, and I was really hoping to engage in some good conversation about it. What happened?
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Post by Ero_Sennin on Jul 18, 2005 3:20:18 GMT -5
I don't know. Not many people ask questions anymore.. but you have to hand it to some of the members for answering the questions
Was Blue really that kitten at the end or no? The world may never know.. but I'd like to believe she was
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Post by SHE on Jul 18, 2005 3:50:43 GMT -5
Blue, the kitten? Where on earth do you get that idea?
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Post by Scarred Wolf on Jul 18, 2005 14:53:26 GMT -5
I have that idea too. But its mainly off of the fact that i really want blue to be reborn. The kitten did have blue eyes, and i mean since she was half wolf its logical perhaps she wont be reborn as a human like the other wolves.
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Post by devinfire on Jul 18, 2005 14:54:12 GMT -5
Some believe that the kitten was Blue because of the kitten's blue eyes. I myself think thats stretching the show alittle too far, but to each their own I suppose. Another reason some people think it's Blue is because Toboe hates cats but he was sitting there playing with at the end. Some think Toboe knew it was Blue. I think Blue was brought back like the other four, but simply wasn't shown due to the time frame of the show. I wish the block for WR had been a full hour, imagine what the creators could have done with that much more time on their hands.
I'd like to know what was up with the flower path Cheza created right before Darcia snatched her from Kiba and the others.
I'd like to discuss whether nobles are humans that prolonged their life or aliens. I for one believe they are actuallly humans who are skilled in alchemy. Why?
1. Alchemy is the science of WR 2. Episode 27 starts out with someone speaking about paradise and humans. It's mentioned that humans figured out how to prolong their life, answering the riddle of why nobles live for so damn long.
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Post by Ero_Sennin on Jul 18, 2005 15:47:05 GMT -5
In the third DVD (11-14) I believe Cher explained that they are aliens
What was up with the flower path Cheza created. You mean in the earlier episodes? That was just an illusion... Darcia explained that to them. I think he said something like "Did you like that little illusion." Or something close to that
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Post by Scarred Wolf on Jul 18, 2005 16:54:26 GMT -5
I dont think it was an illusion, but it couldn't have led to paradise because darcia would've went, no?
And the exact line was something like "did you like your little dream? the one when you were going to paradise?"
i dont think they are aliens, but they are some type of advanced species of human who are sorcerers and alchemists or something. Once again, vague.
I dont see how blue being the cat is far-fetched at all. The reasons devinfire explained are more than enough to convince me its a large possibility.
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Post by SHE on Jul 18, 2005 17:17:10 GMT -5
I never saw it that way, perhaps the cat could have been blue. And was the flower trail really just an illusion or was it something that only they could see to lead them to paradise? I believe it was the path to paradise, all the more reason for Darica to interrupt. Perhaps for himself, it wasn't time for paradise to be found and opened.
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Post by devinfire on Jul 18, 2005 17:55:52 GMT -5
It's never stated that the nobles came from space. But it is hinted that they left the planet for space. What I figured was that the nobles were nothing more than humans that were skilled at alchemy. I read in a WR interview with the character designer that alchemy was the science of WR.
About the episode 13, Cher says that long ago the nobles gathered and dissapeared, taking with them their advanced alchemy. There's a picture of a space ship on the wall, hinting at the possibilty that the nobles left for space. Maybe they discovered the truth about paradise and the world's fate of a never ending cycle. (being reborn over and over)
The flower path, well yeah maybe it was an illusion, but it was leading them somewhere, that's for sure. But that's why Darcia had to intervene, he needed paradise for himself and if the wolves got there he would fail to achieve his goal.
As for the kitten being Blue, I dont think so. But just because Blue wasn't shown at the end doesn't mean she too wasn't reborn. It was most likely the fact that the animators went over their 30 min time frame.
But with the Blue being reborn as a cat, what purpose is there to that? Beyond wishful thinking? Not much, I feel.
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Post by Lady Amalthea on Jul 18, 2005 20:46:24 GMT -5
(Why did I include a picture of my cat you ask? because I can.) Now to me the cats eyes look hazel. Let's look at the the little pic at the on the top right, the right eye (your right, not the cat's right) has a blue glare but the other one does not. Now I have a theory... you have heard that the wolves come back as humans, what did the humans come back as? Animals? Perhaps the kitten is Quent. Now before you burst out laughing at the idea of Quent being a kitten consider the following Toboe does not show fondness for cats when he is a wolf I think he even mentions something to tsume about not liking them. We see him at the end openly showing affection and holding this kitten, remember how Toboe promised Blue if she was not around he would look after Quent. Perhaps that is what he is doing. Those are my two cents.
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Post by armand on Jul 18, 2005 20:51:49 GMT -5
Wow, i never saw that one coming. Quent being that little kitten, it is an interesting theory and what you just said makes perfect sense. However, there is no definite answer to the whole kitten affair. It is just open to interpretation, however, i like the Quent-being-the-kitten theory than the blue-being-a-kitten-theory.
If i could only have a nice chat with the creators.
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Post by Scarred Wolf on Jul 18, 2005 21:24:21 GMT -5
Thats a really good idea BC, and a possibility, just as much as it being blue. Im leaning towards blue more because she was one of the pack while the 3 humans weren't shown. its still a possibility.
As for you Devinfire, why are you being so close minded about the cat being someone? I think it makes a lot of sense that it is a character reborn, it isnt just "wishful thinking" but using common sense.
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Post by devinfire on Jul 18, 2005 22:00:02 GMT -5
sheesh, sorry for having an opinion. I could very well have asked you why your so closed minded about the kitten not being a reincarnated major character, but we all have our own thoughts and presumptions.
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Post by Scarred Wolf on Jul 18, 2005 22:08:07 GMT -5
There is a possibility it isnt, there is a posssibility it is. All im saying is you cant dismiss either. Most things in WR seem to serve a purpose, in my opinion that cat did, its most likely someone incarnated. Yet, ill accept the fact that it could just be there to show us Toboe is human.
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Post by SHE on Jul 18, 2005 22:29:04 GMT -5
Well that's what I was going to suggest. Maybe the kitten is just to show that Toboe is human, and as a human I don't think he would any longer hate cats. However, not to say it's true, but the Quent idea is kinda fun to think.
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